Showing posts with label Rebecca Kleefisch. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rebecca Kleefisch. Show all posts

6.03.2012

Loesch, Katz, and other Teabaggers rally to support Kleefisch and Walker

Yesterday, at a teabagger rally in Racine, Wisconsin featuring Walker/Kleefisch apologists, including Wisconsin Congressman and potential Romney VP choice Paul Ryan (R-WI01), Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch (R), The Dana Show's lead substitute host Tony Katz, and of course CNN, KFTK, and Breitbart's Dana The Devil. The rally featured tons of anti-union right-wing talking points.




Key Loesch falsehoods:

  • Loesch: "I love your cheese curds, I love your beer, and I love your [pro-Walker/anti-recall] fighting spirit. I love your Governor (Scott Walker), I love your Lieutenant Governor (Rebecca Kleefisch), and I love your four State Lawmakers who are standing up to the machine!" (approx. 0:34)
  • Loesch: "Andrew Breitbart (now deceased) inspired the fight that we're fighting." (approx: 1:45)
  • Loesch: "Breitbart is still here." (approx. 1:55)
  • Loesch: "All of this started when some out-of-state union bosses want to exploit the working man." (approx: 3:14). Wrong! It's out-of-state billionaires like the Koch Bros. that are exploiting the working class, as is the GOP.
  • Loesch: "Public sector unions aren't our enemies, but the bosses, in my opinion, are." (approx: 3:33)
  • Loesch falsely claimed that "out-of-state union fatcats who make 6 figures while they bleed paychecks off the working families so they can do what? Donate to candidates who vote against your best interests." Who's acting against the best interests of Wisconsinites? The GOP, that's who! (approx: 3:45)
  • Loesch misleadingly stated that the "war on working families are perpetuated by union bosses and the Democrat Party." No way, it's being perpetuated by ALEC, Koch Bros, and other anti-union-based groups."
  • Loesch said "Shame on Mahlon Mitchell because he signed a petition to boycott pro-Walker Businesses." Mitchell was well within his right to do that. (approx. 5:20)
  • She said "Shame on Tom Barrett." (approx. 5:40)
  • She misleadingly stated that "there's no difference between Barack Obama and Tom Barrett." (approx. 6:25)
  • Loesch baselessly stated that "Barrett will run the State of Wisconsin to the ground like what he did to the city of Milwaukee." (approx. 6:38)
  • Loesch misleadingly blamed the Democratic Party for the loss of jobs and starting the "War on Women." Wrong, it is you and your own party that's responsible for that. (approx. 8:27)
  • Loesch: "You have 7% of the workforce that holding 93% of the population hostage. We are the 93% Percent." Baloney. (approx: 8:56)





No, Ms. Loesch, it's shame on YOU, shame on Kleefisch, and shame on Walker!

Tuesday will be the day that Wisconsinites recall Walker, Kleefisch, and the 4 GOP State Senators up for recall!


Campaign donations to help the #WIRecall effort and piss off Dana Loesch:
Tom Barrett (D): Governor for Wisconsin 
Mahlon Mitchell (D): Lt. Governor for Wisconsin 

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6.01.2012

Loesch smears Shriver and Barrett on Twitter

Today, I found out that Dana Loesch is still playing her bullying games at her foes on twitter, and the main targets were Adam Shriver (@stlactivisthub) and Milwaukee Mayor (soon-to-be possible Governor of Wisconsin) Tom Barrett (@barrett4wi).

Loesch's smears of Adam Shriver:


























Loesch defends Walker/Kleefisch against Barrett:













Sorry, Ms. Loesch! Kleefisch is NOT grassroots, and neither is Koch Bros. puppet Scott Walker!







Typical fascist bullshit.















Nope, Walker caused the LOSS of jobs.





























She even got in a dig or two at Gennette Nicole/P.J. Nicolatore (@NicoleGennette).












Nope, your BFF Walker ducked and dodged questions like a typical Rethuglican. Tom Barrett, on the other hand, was honest and direct in calling his lies out.



Campaign donations to help the #WIRecall effort and piss off Dana Loesch:
Tom Barrett (D): Governor for Wisconsin
Mahlon Mitchell (D): Lt. Governor for Wisconsin


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5.29.2012

Dana Loesch on GBTV's The Glenn Beck Show

Today on GBTV's The Glenn Beck Show, KFTK (whose station carries Beck's radio show prior to The Dana Show and fellow employer Dave Glover as an occasional fill-in) radio host Dana Loesch filled in for the too deranged for Fixed Noise Glenn Beck.

Loesch's interview with former Liberal-turned-Conservative Brandon Darby (a Dana Show regular):


From the 05.29.2012 edition of GBTV's The Glenn Beck Show:



Tonight on GBTV, guest host Dana Loesch was joined by Brandon Darby. Brandon has one of the most interesting life stories of anyone you will ever come across.
Brandon Darby, now a conservative activist, spent much of his life fighting for the left. Brandon describes his transformation to the right as “a process.” After turning in a Palestinian radical to the FBI for plotting to filter money to radical groups that were using the money to fund violence against Israelis, he began work as an FBI informant.
While working as an informant he helped expose and stop an attack at the 2008 GOP convention. This event revealed Brandon as an informant and quickly put him to the top of the ‘left’s most hated’ list. Brandon now works to expose the far left and those behind Occupy Wall Street. Darby joined forces with the late Andrew Breitbart, Stephen Bannon and many others for a film called Occupy Unmasked.



Loesch had on Wisconsin Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch (R) (another Dana Show regular) to defend her against being recalled:


From the 05.29.2012 edition of GBTV's The Glenn Beck Show:


Sorry to burst your bubble, Dana, but Kleefisch AND Walker will be recalled next week, no matter how much prostituting (aka shilling) you do for the anti-Recall (pro-Walker/Kleefisch) side!

Loesch then falsely accused "the left of bullying conservatives" and misleadingly declared that "Madeleine McAulay's freedoms were being stifled for her pro-'traditional marriage' views."

From the 05.29.2012 edition of GBTV's The Glenn Beck Show:



I think this is a sign that Loesch's 3 hour liefest may be getting national syndication soon.


Loesch made my Top 5 worst St. Louisans of all-time, at #2:










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4.18.2012

In her anti-union Big Government post, Loesch defends Walker and Kleefisch from possible recalls

In her Big Government post, anti-union numbnut Dana Loesch defended Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (R) and Lt. Governor Rebecca Kleefisch (R) from the grassroots Recall Walker movement. As usual, she was delusional enough to falsely declare that the Walker/Kleefisch reforms "are helping Wisconsin."


No other race in the country better embodies the struggle between conservative and progressive ideals than the recall battle over Wisconsin's Lieutenant Governor. 
The incumbent is former stay-at-home-mom and journalist Rebecca Kleefisch, whose ascent through the state party was a hard-won battle against the establishment, waged by a fed-up citizen. Kleefisch didn't just fight the GOP establishment and win by double-digits; during the primary she also fought and defeated colon cancer. 
In contrast, Big Labor has put up its own candidate. Of the five Democrats who've filed, Mahlon Mitchell seems the most likely candidate to emerge for the June 5th showdown. Mitchell shares the same far-left ideology of the labor protesters who trashed the capitol and sent death threats to Republicans. Mitchell landed in hot water with the labor protesters when he got too friendly with Walker in exchange for some reform exemptions; later, when pressure grew, he joined in the marches and led chants against Walker and Kleefisch. (Apparently, he didn't condemn the appalling and criminal behavior of the protesters, either.) 
Mitchell opposes the the very reforms of collective bargaining privileges that have brought Wisconsin voters the economic stability they desired. Democrats want to keep holding elections at the public's expense until they get the results they want. In the meantime, their far-left, out-of-state interests will pump somewhere around $80 million into the Wisconsin Democrat party--a chunk of that into Mitchell's campaign--in their assault on economic reform.
The reforms Kleefisch has helped to enact during her tenure as Lieutenant Governor have saved the state millions of dollars.

Mahlon Mitchell (D) will likely be the next Lt. Governor of Wisconsin, whether Loesch and her ilk like it or not!

She continues with this stupid statement:

Make no mistake: a loss in Wisconsin will derail the first generation of reform governors. It will affect every other state, and give the President a singular victory from which to campaign as he slides his failed policies off the table.  
Not only that, but a loss for Kleefisch could discourage other women from running for office. Conservative women have been met with a barrage of abuse simply for being conservatives, and Kleefisch is no exception. If other potential female conservative candidates see what the left is capable of doing to one currently in office, don't expect to see them take on the heat of a campaign in the future.


In fact, the Walker/Kleefisch "reforms" in Wisconsin are NOT working, much to the chagrin of the Walker/Kleefisch apologists. Their asinine polices have led to job LOSSES, not gains, and they're blaming the DEMOCRATS for it?!


Badger Democracy has the Top 10 reasons why Kleefisch needs to be pink-slipped:

1. Kleefisch lied in the 2010 election about the level of tax increase under Doyle, misrepresenting it by over $2 billion – a lie Politifact couldn’t even miss. 
2. In the 2010 election, during an interview with Fox 6 in Milwaukee, compared same-sex relationships with having a relationship with inanimate objects, in spite of her uncle being in an openly gay relationship for over 18 years.

3. Frequent speaker at Tea Party rallies (such as Sheboygan) in summer 2010 – coined the phrase “open for business” and railed on the role of Government in ruining the economy in Wisconsin, even when the real cause of the recession was lack of regulation on speculative and risky investment ventures; not too much government.

4. After leaving WISN-TV in Milwaukee, became a “conservative correspondent” for Charlie Sykes, conservative radio talk show host in Milwaukee.

5. Kleefisch pushes for abstinence only sex-ed.

6. She is anti-reproductive rights, even in cases of rape, incest, or the mother’s life being in danger.

7. Anti-embryonic stem cell research, in spite of scientific evidence that adult stem cells are not as effective for research.

8. Considers the top quality necessary for a Governor  is “…to be a Christian man…”, in her own words, 28 seconds in on the video. 
9. Along with Scott Walker, broke a campaign promise to immediately begin paying their increased pension contribution upon taking office. They only complied when mandated to do so by newly enacted law, along with other state employees.

10. Kleefisch has never before been elected or appointed to public office, has no fiscal managerial experience, and has no qualifications to serve as Governor. Being a middle market news reporter does not qualify you for the high office of Lt. Governor, or Governor. 
The fact is, Kleefisch was not qualified to be Lieutenant Governor in the first place – a fact simply ignored by the media during the campaign, and Wisconsin voters who either didn’t vote, or were seduced by Scott Walker. She is a fundamentalist, whose ideology does not (contrary to her speeches and ads) reflect or care about the majority of Wisconsin. Now is the time to call her out for what she is, and for her support of Scott Walker.

I sure hope she and Walker both are recalled. And you can donate some of your money to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin's Recall Walker Campaign, via ActBlue.
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4.15.2012

Dana Loesch visits Madison, Wisconsin, and lies her butt off

Yesterday in Madison, Wisconsin, CNN "Contributor" and paid GOP hack who pretends to be an independent Conservative Dana Loesch spoke at the Wisconsin Tax Day Rally, which was of course attacks on Democrats, unions, supporters of Walker's recall, and liberals.

At the Tax Day Rally, Loesch relied on her numerous falsehoods.

Key Points

  • She declared Wisconsin "ground zero" between unions and union-busters. Guess which side she's on? (approx. 0:57)
  • Loesch: "We are fighting the Reds." (Reds in this case is code for anti-Walker/Kleefisch and pro-union activists) (approx. 1:28)
  • She falsely claims that the "Democrats have launched the 'War On (Stay-At-Home) Moms.'" (approx. 1:48)
  • She mentions that she was a former registered Democrat, but when September 11th, 2011 hit, Loesch said: "good-bye Dems and I thank God we have a Republican in office." (approx. 2:00)
  • Loesch: "I left that party (Democrat Party) of motley crews, rudeness, crassness, and absolute Marxist confusion because of the way they exploited women" (approx. 2:18) No, Dana, it's the GOP that's exploiting women, you asshole!
  • She misleadingly accuses the Democratic Party of launching a "war on women." Wrong, Ms. Loesch! (approx. 2:35)
  • She was cheerleading for the corrupt Lt. Gov of Wisconsin, Rebecca Kleefisch (R), who happens to be the subject of a recall. (approx. 2:44)
  • She slammed the Democrats, SEIU, AFL-CIO, and other liberal-leaning groups for calling out people like her. (approx. 2:59)
  • She misleadingly attacks Democrats as "sexists, misogynists, and creeps." (approx. 4:00)
  • Loesch was telling lies about the history of the Democratic Party. (approx. 5:00)
  • She falsely states that Walker's "reforms" are "saving the state thousands of dollars." Wrong, Walker's bankrupted that state. (approx. 5:38)
  • Loesch: "I'm a hard-working, private sector, homeschooling mom." (approx. 5:45)
  • Loesch: "The Democrats and unions want to rob our money, our benefits, our children's education." (approx. 6:01)
  • While she portrays her family as "blue-collar and hard-working," she and her husband (Chris) are anything but that. (approx. 6:29)
  • She misleadingly claims that "20,000+ jobs will be provided by the building of Keystone XL." (approx. 6:45)
  • She falsely blames the Democrats and Obama for "shutting down oil." (approx. 7:10)
  • The crowd blurted out "She [Kleefisch] rocks!" Nope, she sucks! (approx. 8:14)
  • Loesch: "The Democrats, Leftists, Liberals, Marxists, Socialists, and Fascists can bite me!" (approx. 9:00)
  • She is still attacking the Democrats for "stalling progress, reform, attacking moms, etc." That's not true, ma'am! (approx. 9:15)





Later that night, she was on CNN Newsroom with Don Lemon, and of course, she was being rude, discourteous, and just flat-out dishonest.


From the 04.14.2012 edition of CNN's CNN Newsroom:


Transcript:
LEMON: That was just on television. Should have heard on the radio and what people were writing about, even some conservative bloggers wrote about it. One of them is here tonight. And we have quite an interesting exchange on twitter. Can't we all just get along? 
Noel Sheppard is the assistant editor or "News Busters." Boy, do I have some questions for you. And so does Goldie Taylor, and so does Dean Obeidallah. We got some questions for you. 
Well, Dana Loesch, we know you, because you're a CNN contributor and the editor of the late Andrew Breitbart's Web site, bigjournalism.com. 
So, more on the n word later guys, I just want to thank you all for joining us because I just want to talk to the conservatives. I want to just talk to the - you know, have this faith balance thing from the Democrat and then from the conservatives. This has pop to the conservatives tonight. And as I said, I don't mean the democratically approved ones or the Democrat approved one, like you guys said.
OK. So listen, there's always a spin from both sides. 
So Noel, I want to ask you this, this is -- this is right up "News Busters" alley. So, how is this so-called liberal media doing telling this story, are they getting it right so far? 
NOEL SHEPPARD, CONTRIBUTING WRITER, FOX FORUM: What you said and what Suzanne said or --? 
LEMON: No, I'm talking about hooker gate. Let's talk about the secret service. And so, I was saying the secret service, this is right up your alley. So, in your assessment, watching the media so far report this since it broke today, the so-called liberal media, how are they doing? Are they getting it right so far? 
SHEPPARD: got to tell you, Don, I'm actually not prepared to discuss that. I really didn't pay a lot of attention to the story today. I was writing about other things. 
LEMON: All right. Interesting Dana, because are conservatives going to capitalize on this, or is this something that doesn't make a difference as a reflect - at any reflection on the White House at all? 
DANA LOESCH, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think the thing that scares me the most is you have secret service men who are assigned to protect the president of the United States, and then down -- going down to Colombia, he's not -- I mean, he's not being protected. You have them - they were supposed to be one of the part of the advance team. I think I read a little early today. I've been in Wisconsin here for a fantastic rally with Americans for Prosperity, and the Wisconsin tea party up here. 
So I came in, I was eating my dinner. I was looking at the story. And my first thought, Don, seriously was, wait a minute, now, I get we disagree with the president on policy. We disagree with Democrats. But I have a problem with the people who are assigned to protect the president not being there protecting him. So that was my first thought. And that's what I was looking into first. 
Now, in terms of, you know what the media has written or what they haven't written about it, or any sort of spin, I haven't seen anything yet. Because I still think that people are trying to get the facts out there. But long story short that was my first concern. And I hope that was everybody else's first concern, too. 
LEMON: Yes. I think what people were saying is that, OK, this is an election year, and if it was something that happened during a Republican administration, the Democrats would certainly try to spin it. And it's something that happened during a Democratic administration, while the Republicans are going to try to spin it. And so, that was my question. That was the impetus to my question, is this going to be used in an election year in the political process? 
LOESCH: Well, I don't know. Because I - some of the - I read an interview that an individual gave earlier today. Again, I've been out rallying all day. I read an interview that someone gave today who worked with the secret service. And they were saying that this is kind of a problem with the secret service that's been sort of happening for a while, and then they mentioned, was this a White House party that occurred about what a year and a half ago, two years ago, where you had the Salahis I believe, her last name was that crashed this party -- 
LEMON: Salahis. Salahis, yes. 
LOESCH: Yes, Salahis. They crashed this party. And they were able to get there. They were able to do their photo-ops. That's something that should have never happened. So from seeing that and just seeing the reports on it, this seems to be a problem that's been festering for a while. I think we need to get all the facts of the matter before we can try to play politics with it. 
LEMON: Wow. That was really - I can't believe there is some consensus on that. 
SHEPPARD: Yes, I mean. Don, I would say that as well. As I think this is kind a new story, so let's see how this plays out the next couple of days or week. Then we can get a sense how to how the media will play this. 
LEMON: OK. All right. All right. So Noel and Dana, you might have missed this moment this week. I'm joking, but any way, I just want to make sure you see it before we talk about it. Here it is. 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR: His wife has never worked a day in her life. She's never really dealt with the economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we worry and why do we worry about their future. 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LEMON: OK, conservatives. Dana, is this a real conflict or is this a political or media driven story? I haven't heard, I have to be honest to you. And this is just me. This is unscientific survey here. Most of the women in my life who I have spoken to are not talking about the story and they have no idea who Hilary Rosen even is. And the only people who are talking about it are people in politics and politics in the media. 
LOESCH: I think everybody is talking about it. Within 24 hours, you had David Axelrod make a statement on it. You have -- 
LEMON: I'm talking women. I'm talking women. And people outside of the political process. 
LOESCH: As did the first lady. So Don, where are you at? 
LEMON: No, no, I said. No, no, no, listen to my question. I said people outside of politics and outside of the media. 
LOESCH: OK. I think it is a problem. I ran into a lot of women today who aren't in the media, and I had lunch with some women earlier this afternoon who actually didn't go out to the rally, and they were saying, yes, you know, we heard about this. It's a little bit unsettling, because, you know, we're mothers. We've raised children. It's kind of a problem. I think Democrats are realizing that they sort of have an optic problem when it comes to reaching out to some women voters. 
I mean, it's great to talk about the Lily Ledbetter Act, which actually the labor secretary is the least that did not have any impact at all whatsoever. I think there's a problem with optics right now. 
You can't reach out to a voting bloc, which is going to drive the election, let's be frank. Women, mothers especially, drive every election. They do. You can't reach out to a voting bloc while at the same time your party going out there and saying there's a war on women, and then actually saying things like this about women. 
And it's not just, you know, Hilary Rosen. We're talking about there's a democrat down in Florida representative Randolph who went off on a tirade against mothers on his twitter page and on facebook just in the fast several days. The Democratic Senatorial Committee has been using the war on women for a long time. Move On has been using this phrase for a long time. 
LEMON: Dana? 
LOESCH: Yes. 
LEMON: You have to let the men get in on this. 
(LAUGHTER)
LEMON: Noel is just sitting there patiently, waiting to get in. We're being gentlemen here. We are letting the women have their say but, my God, let him say a word. I just - Noel, you can -- 
SHEPPARD: Don? 
LEMON: Go ahead. 
SHEPPARD: Don, this proves there is no Republican war on women. I'm letting her say whatever she wants. So this should completely dispel this notion that Republicans have a war on women. 
The reality here, this was a big misstep for the Obama administration and for the Obama campaign. They've been talking about this phony war on women since early January, and it's been very, very much assisting the president in the polling numbers where suddenly he's beating Romney by 18, 19 points, and all of a sudden someone that nobody outside of the beltway has ever heard of makes this really stupid remark about Mitt Romney's wife, and this is going to be an issue and the president had to immediately talk about it, Axelrod had to talk about it. And I think that this little rally that Obama has had with regard to women, I think that rally has faded and now the question is, how far is this going to plummet? How much of his 18, 19-point lead -- 
LEMON: OK, OK. Noel, I don't have a blog like you. I have time issues. I have to say, Dana, you are a big girl. You can handle it. Someone just e-mailed and said, I will be honest, this woman is lying. I have yet to hear one person outside of CNN talk about the Ann Romney story and that's from a woman. That's all I'm saying. 
(LAUGHTER)
LEMON: But hang on, listen. I'm going to talk to you -- 
SHEPPARD: That settles it. 
LEMON: I'm going to talk to you in a bit, because Noel, you wrote something about me and we'll talk about the n word and the Trayvon Martin story. You talked about me in "News Busters." You talked about the n word now being used on CNN, saying, if it dramatizes racism, Lemon certainly thinks so. I'm going to ask you about that. 
Dana, your site wrote something about me and filmmaker Spike Lee as it relates to the Trayvon Martin story. I want to talk about that. 
All right. We'll talk about that. So, stand by, guys. More of the stories that you are talking about in just a moment. We will be back right after a break. 


Loesch will also be speaking at Chicago's Tea Party Tax Day rally tomorrow.

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7.31.2011

Loesch and her cronies at "Smart Girl" Summit 2011

The massively misinformed Dana Loesch spoke at the "Smart Girl" Summit (which might as well be called the Misinformed Conservative Women Summit) which was held at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Downtown St. Louis, Missouri. Here is a look at what she and her cronies said at the event:

Loesch, a GOP shill who pretends to be an independent conservative, said "We criticize the GOP because we care."


Loesch spoke to PJTV's Alexis Garcia on her take of the Teahadist movement. As expected, she blamed the Democrats for the economy being bad.


Herman Cain falsely states that "invoking the 14th Amendment is an abuse of the Constitution."


Missouri's Lt. Governor Peter Kinder (R) was whining about the "Federal Government being 'despots' over the states."



Andrew Breitbart blamed the "liberal media" for having a bias, with no regard for facts. In fact, Fixed Noise and right-wing media is more biased than the So-Called Liberal Media.






Of course, there was union-bashing going on, as Scott Walker crony, aka Wisconsin's Lt. Governor Rebecca Kleefisch (R) defended Walker's insane actions:



Phyllis Schlafly, St. Louis's Original Nutjob, said: "Obama Raising the Debt Ceiling On His Own is Unconstitutional." If Bush (or any other GOP President) did it, then Schlafly would be praising it.



The SGS Straw Poll results, the 1st ever women's Presidential straw poll, gave the absolutely insane Michele Bachmann a victory but Herman Cain was a closer-than-expected 2nd. Rick Perry and Sarah Palin were NOT on the ballot.

Billing it as the first ever women’s presidential straw poll, nearly 300 conservative women activists cast their ballots in Louisville this weekend at the third annual Smart Girl Summit to give their favorite presidential candidates a boost.

Michele Bachmann came in first—no shock there—but it wasn’t the complete blowout many expected from an audience of conservative women. Entrepreneur and inspirational speaker Herman Cain finished a close second, underscoring that the women are looking for conservative grassroots leadership regardless of gender.

Click here to find out more!

This is the season for straw polls, and it’s always fun to measure the candidates against one another. But it’s unclear how much they mean in a primary contest that doesn’t get underway for another six months, and when two potentially major candidates, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, were left off the ballot, since they were at the summit.


Many of the women were undecided and agonized over their choice, with some wanting to write in Palin or Perry, but the voting was limited to declared candidates.

Results of the Straw Poll, via Benjamin Daily's Twitter:
Women's Straw Poll results: Bachmann 40%, Cain 30%, Paul 9%, Romney 8%, Pawlenty 7.4%, Santorum 3%, & 4 tied with 0.7%

http://twitter.com/#!/BFDally/status/97729336047706114

Sarah Palin's The Undefeated (more like The Unfinished or The Quitter Who Loses) was on hand at the event. The film has a 0% rating at RottenTomatoes.com. The pro-Palin apologists, especially over at C4P.com, are spinning this as if it were a big hit.
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