Round 1 (MSNBC's The Ed Show):
On Thursday, 11.13.2014, Schultz hosted Loesch, Community Health TV CEO Dr. Corey Hebert, and MSNBC's Krystal Ball. Of course, as usual, Loesch was acting like a rude screaming banshee on major-level national television by filibustering the host and the other two guests.
Left of Center at Crooks and Liars on her Ed Show appearance:
Dana Loesch, author of "Hands Off My Gun" begins by trying to discredit Ed by using the phrase, "those are White House Numbers." As if these were different than the CBO numbers he was talking about, then she tries to play the "my friends and family are all losing their healthcare" game and has not one official fact she can cite.
She dodges the question, 'are there fewer insured than there were one year ago before the implementation of Obamacare?' Instead of answering the questions, she brings up the Politifact lie of the year, "If you like your doctor, you can keep him" in a sad attempt to distract Ed from the question, 'do fewer people have insurance now than one year ago.' Still, she fails to answer the simple question, are there fewer uninsured than one year ago?
I honestly can't get through this awful fiction-festival any more. I'm disgusted these morons get to be in charge of 70% of the state legislatures, a majority in the House AND Senate. Her interview just depicts how intellectually and factually bankrupt this party is. Poor Krystal Ball and Corey Hebert had to combat her fictitious bullshit and refute claims of fantastical origins. The Republicans can't tell us what we're going to keep on Obamacare, just what's going to be cut. There was at least five minutes of her pointless obstruction and it let's us know there is no reasoning with people living in Crazytown, Fantasyland, USA.
From the 11.13.2014 edition of MSNBC's The Ed Show:
PunditFact on Loesch's Obamacare Lies:
Loesch said that 4.7 million people have lost their health insurance due to Obamacare. That number matches one cited by the Associated Press based on preliminary estimates and incomplete data. The best estimate from independent researchers is that perhaps 2.6 million people received notices that their health care insurance policies were being canceled.
However, Loesch spoke as if these people, whatever their number, did not find replacement coverage. In reality, fewer than 1 million people who had been part of the individual insurance market ended up with no coverage at all. Given the constant churn in that market, it is unlikely that the Affordable Care Act caused all of them to be without health insurance.
Loesch’s number is off, both in terms of the cancellations and what people did afterward. Still, the new law did hurt some people.
We rate the claim Mostly False.
Round 2 (TheBlazeTV's Dana):
In contrast to the shoutfest that Loesch filibustered her way into being the dominant voice on The Ed Show segment featuring the two last week, the interview on Dana had a much calmer tone.
Josh Feldman at Mediaite on Schultz v. Loesch Part 2:
Ed Schultz hosted BlazeTV’s Dana Loesch on his MSNBC show last week and things ended up getting pretty damn heated. They fought each other and Schultz said Loesch was being rude and “unworkable.”
So today, they faced off for Round 2 on Loesch’s BlazeTV show, and… it was actually very respectful and no one raised their voices at each other.
He repeatedly said he’s not completely thrilled with the law, but as first steps go, it’s a good start.
From the 11.17.2014 edition of TheBlazeTV's Dana:
In both rounds, Loesch had the lies and Schultz had the truth on his side.